NS Cliches: Rebooted

by **Brettenwald** » Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:07 pm

Kiu Ghesik wrote:
Broader Confederate States wrote:
Is it fundamental though? I mean... I just wanted to have a libertarian actually win an election for once in history

I think bretten was referring specifically to sexual self-inserts; I.e. making the character who just so happens to resemble you get laid all the time and be the hottest person in the story and have everyone they’re interested in falling over them and so on and so forth
In that light libertarian grandma definitely doesn’t count :}

No, I wasn't really. I should have put a paragraph break there, that's on me. The point I failed miserably to make is that I don't think there's ever going to be an NS character truly independent from its creator, though there's always exceptions like Konraniski, Sven Vasa, and Alastair to name a few. Self-inserts might just be inevitable here because we're all just bored nerds in a LARP collective and I think our subconscious blurs the lines sometimes as a form of unintentional escapism. They run the gamut from Northumbria/Sharifistan's one-dimensional Chad Thundercocks like Edmund and the caliphs Shar marries off three times a week to my guy Marco liking the same jazz artists I do, but they're there.

Or maybe I'm just a grumpy, cynical zoomer with not enough faith in y'all's creative ability, IDK.

by **Broader Confederate States** » Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:11 pm

Brettenwald wrote:
Kiu Ghesik wrote:I think bretten was referring specifically to sexual self-inserts; I.e. making the character who just so happens to resemble you get laid all the time and be the hottest person in the story and have everyone they’re interested in falling over them and so on and so forth
In that light libertarian grandma definitely doesn’t count :}

No, I wasn't really. I should have put a paragraph break there, that's on me. The point I failed miserably to make is that I don't think there's ever going to be an NS character truly independent from its creator, though there's always exceptions like Konraniski, Sven Vasa, and Alastair to name a few. Self-inserts might just be inevitable here because we're all just bored nerds in a LARP collective and I think our subconscious blurs the lines sometimes as a form of unintentional escapism. They run the gamut from Northumbria/Sharifistan's one-dimensional Chad Thundercocks like Edmund and the caliphs Shar marries off three times a week to my guy Marco liking the same jazz artists I do, but they're there.

Or maybe I'm just a grumpy, cynical zoomer with not enough faith in y'all's creative ability, IDK.

My misunderstanding then, I thought you meant that certain sort of self insert was fundamental to self inserts.

by **Nouvelle-Floride** » Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:20 pm

dengism

by **Frisco Commonwealth** » Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:22 pm

Nouvelle-Floride wrote:dengism

so true!

by **Cavirfi** » Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:23 pm

Nouvelle-Floride wrote:dengism

Based?

by **Kiu Ghesik** » Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:26 pm

Nouvelle-Floride wrote:dengism

tf rubi doin

12 March 2022

Brettenwald wrote:
Kiu Ghesik wrote:I think bretten was referring specifically to sexual self-inserts; I.e. making the character who just so happens to resemble you get laid all the time and be the hottest person in the story and have everyone they’re interested in falling over them and so on and so forth
In that light libertarian grandma definitely doesn’t count :}

No, I wasn't really. I should have put a paragraph break there, that's on me. The point I failed miserably to make is that I don't think there's ever going to be an NS character truly independent from its creator, though there's always exceptions like Konraniski, Sven Vasa, and Alastair to name a few. Self-inserts might just be inevitable here because we're all just bored nerds in a LARP collective and I think our subconscious blurs the lines sometimes as a form of unintentional escapism. They run the gamut from Northumbria/Sharifistan's one-dimensional Chad Thundercocks like Edmund and the caliphs Shar marries off three times a week to my guy Marco liking the same jazz artists I do, but they're there.

Or maybe I'm just a grumpy, cynical zoomer with not enough faith in y'all's creative ability, IDK.

I mean, I took my obsession with Hamlet and amped it up by about 1000 to make WF, so it's not 100% not a self-insert, but Alastair is...his own person.

by **Aureumterra III** » Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:09 pm

Kiu Ghesik wrote:
Nouvelle-Floride wrote:dengism

tf rubi doin

Dengism

~~I mean, it definitely is an ironic cliche on the NS discordverse~~

by **Fahran** » Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:21 pm

Kiu Ghesik wrote:I think bretten was referring specifically to sexual self-inserts; I.e. making the character who just so happens to resemble you get laid all the time and be the hottest person in the story and have everyone they’re interested in falling over them and so on and so forth
In that light libertarian grandma definitely doesn’t count :}

We need more accurate self-inserts.

"She had a tumble of thick, brown hair and dark, inquisitive eyes. Her depression was dummy thicc such that the clap of her suicidal thoughts would alert her parents about her whereabouts."

by **Isles of Eamhna** » Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:22 pm

Fahran wrote:"She had a tumble of thick, brown hair and dark, inquisitive eyes. Her depression was dummy thicc such that the clap of her suicidal thoughts would alert her parents about her whereabouts."

lol

12 March 2022

Fahran wrote:
Kiu Ghesik wrote:I think bretten was referring specifically to sexual self-inserts; I.e. making the character who just so happens to resemble you get laid all the time and be the hottest person in the story and have everyone they’re interested in falling over them and so on and so forth
In that light libertarian grandma definitely doesn’t count :}

We need more accurate self-inserts.

"She had a tumble of thick, brown hair and dark, inquisitive eyes. Her depression was dummy thicc such that the clap of her suicidal thoughts would alert her parents about her whereabouts."

The last thing this world or the NSverse needs is two of me.
Like
I'm super annoying.

by **Kiu Ghesik** » Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:27 pm

Aureumterra III wrote:
Kiu Ghesik wrote:tf rubi doin

Dengism

~~I mean, it definitely is an ironic cliche on the NS discordverse~~

Which I have been rather enjoying not being a part of recently. My extended touching grass session seems to be working.

Fahran wrote:We need more accurate self-inserts.

"She had a tumble of thick, brown hair and dark, inquisitive eyes. Her depression was dummy thicc such that the clap of her suicidal thoughts would alert her parents about her whereabouts."

Quit writing me into your fiction :angry:

by **Holy Federation of Stars** » Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:30 pm

Fahran wrote:
Kiu Ghesik wrote:I think bretten was referring specifically to sexual self-inserts; I.e. making the character who just so happens to resemble you get laid all the time and be the hottest person in the story and have everyone they’re interested in falling over them and so on and so forth
In that light libertarian grandma definitely doesn’t count :}

We need more accurate self-inserts.

"She had a tumble of thick, brown hair and dark, inquisitive eyes. Her depression was dummy thicc such that the clap of her suicidal thoughts would alert her parents about her whereabouts."

I already have an accurate self-insert character, smh

by **Broader Confederate States** » Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:33 pm

Fahran wrote:
Kiu Ghesik wrote:I think bretten was referring specifically to sexual self-inserts; I.e. making the character who just so happens to resemble you get laid all the time and be the hottest person in the story and have everyone they’re interested in falling over them and so on and so forth
In that light libertarian grandma definitely doesn’t count :}

We need more accurate self-inserts.

"She had a tumble of thick, brown hair and dark, inquisitive eyes. Her depression was dummy thicc such that the clap of her suicidal thoughts would alert her parents about her whereabouts."

I had one, but time marches on. Now, the new President is like John McAfee, rest in peavce, but not as cool because only the real deal can be that awesome.

by **Reaper Squadron** » Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:03 pm

Ceranapis wrote:The cliche I don't really understand are the nations that seem like they'd rather be playing a different game. The ones that spend a really long time writing a factbook about the country's leader and then write like nothing about the society that they govern, often times, they make an anime portrait of the leader. Whatever floats your boat I guess, and they don't bother me like the Wehraboos do, but why are you playing NationStates if you seem to really want to create a character and not a country?

Writing stories through the eyes of a character tends to be easier and can sometimes be more entertaining.

12 March 2022

Reaper Squadron wrote:
Ceranapis wrote:The cliche I don't really understand are the nations that seem like they'd rather be playing a different game. The ones that spend a really long time writing a factbook about the country's leader and then write like nothing about the society that they govern, often times, they make an anime portrait of the leader. Whatever floats your boat I guess, and they don't bother me like the Wehraboos do, but why are you playing NationStates if you seem to really want to create a character and not a country?

Writing stories through the eyes of a character tends to be easier and can sometimes be more entertaining.

And, if that character is a leader, it could *technically* be considered worldbuilding because their actions have impacts that stretch beyond their immediate social circles.

by **Laka Strolistandiler** » Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:04 pm

Mechyrdia wrote:The idea that "liberal democracy is inevitable in the future" is just another utopian eskhatology that doesn't deserve to be seriously considered.

I also love how the propagates of this idea often judge a nation if it’s cursed or blessed just on the basis of it’s a liberal democracy or not

by **Zeloria** » Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:50 am

Ceranapis wrote:The cliche I don't really understand are the nations that seem like they'd rather be playing a different game. The ones that spend a really long time writing a factbook about the country's leader and then write like nothing about the society that they govern, often times, they make an anime portrait of the leader. Whatever floats your boat I guess, and they don't bother me like the Wehraboos do, but why are you playing NationStates if you seem to really want to create a character and not a country?

Sometimes I feel like I have the opposite problem. I like worldbuilding, but characterbuilding is something I'm less interested in, but I'm working on that. I like the idea that I have for Leo, but I still think his story needs some changes.

by **Netherlands Australia** » Fri Jul 09, 2021 3:00 am

Zeloria wrote:
Ceranapis wrote:The cliche I don't really understand are the nations that seem like they'd rather be playing a different game. The ones that spend a really long time writing a factbook about the country's leader and then write like nothing about the society that they govern, often times, they make an anime portrait of the leader. Whatever floats your boat I guess, and they don't bother me like the Wehraboos do, but why are you playing NationStates if you seem to really want to create a character and not a country?

Sometimes I feel like I have the opposite problem. I like worldbuilding, but characterbuilding is something I'm less interested in, but I'm working on that. I like the idea that I have for Leo, but I still think his story needs some changes.

I mean, at least worldbuilding makes more sense than characterbuilding. I don't know if it's just me, but I prefer to write in a semi-formal manner, avoiding treating my nation like a fanfic rather than an actual country.

by **Isles of Eamhna** » Fri Jul 09, 2021 4:40 am

Netherlands Australia wrote: […] but I prefer to write in a semi-formal manner, avoiding treating my nation like a fanfic rather than an actual country.

that’s why we’re here and not AO3 or WordPress lol

by **Laka Strolistandiler** » Fri Jul 09, 2021 4:55 am

Honestly I think that treating a nation in a semi-comical way actually IS the purpose of the game. I mean, look at the issues for God’s sake. I believe that roleplaying a semi-parody nation, especially when you make the parody to be semi-realistic is far more interesting than Realistic Modern Liberal Democracy #143274.

by **Hispida** » Fri Jul 09, 2021 7:15 am

Isles of Eamhna wrote:
Netherlands Australia wrote: […] but I prefer to write in a semi-formal manner, avoiding treating my nation like a fanfic rather than an actual country.

that’s why we’re here and not AO3 or WordPress lol

s-s-s-s-shut up...

12 March 2022

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:Honestly I think that treating a nation in a semi-comical way actually IS the purpose of the game. I mean, look at the issues for God’s sake. I believe that roleplaying a semi-parody nation, especially when you make the parody to be semi-realistic is far more interesting than Realistic Modern Liberal Democracy #143274.

And writing a nation that's comically dysfunctional can be quite fun. ~~What, no, I'm not referring to WF...barring Alastair, of course.~~

by **Laka Strolistandiler** » Sat Jul 10, 2021 4:27 am

People on the F-7 replying multiple times to the same user in the same thread with the same message. I mean, one can do it the interesting way, write something newer, perhaps from another perspective, but there are just some people that constantly reply with the same goddamn words again and again…

by **Nationalist Northumbria** » Sat Jul 10, 2021 4:59 am

Brettenwald wrote:
Kiu Ghesik wrote:I think bretten was referring specifically to sexual self-inserts; I.e. making the character who just so happens to resemble you get laid all the time and be the hottest person in the story and have everyone they’re interested in falling over them and so on and so forth
In that light libertarian grandma definitely doesn’t count :}

No, I wasn't really. I should have put a paragraph break there, that's on me. The point I failed miserably to make is that I don't think there's ever going to be an NS character truly independent from its creator, though there's always exceptions like Konraniski, Sven Vasa, and Alastair to name a few. Self-inserts might just be inevitable here because we're all just bored nerds in a LARP collective and I think our subconscious blurs the lines sometimes as a form of unintentional escapism. They run the gamut from Northumbria/Sharifistan's one-dimensional Chad Thundercocks like Edmund and the caliphs Shar marries off three times a week to my guy Marco liking the same jazz artists I do, but they're there.

Or maybe I'm just a grumpy, cynical zoomer with not enough faith in y'all's creative ability, IDK.

Please do not compare my characters with Azad's. They are millions of miles apart.

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